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Whether you work with Certinia or the Salesforce platform or you're a consultant who wants to get better, there are deeper questions that can't be answered with a quick Google search.

John Draginis and Paul Rees have worked in professional services and on the Salesforce platform for most of their careers. In Double Underscore, they discuss real issues faced day-to-day in consulting. This means digging into dealing with burnout, ethical dilemmas, the psychology of persuasion, and balancing technical and people challenges.

Sure, there's some tech talk, but this is not about writing better formulas, passing certification exams, or fanboying over mascots.

Paul and John break down the complexity, bask in the chaos, and seek out new and better ways to approach work (and life).

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